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Post by Ergaomnes on Jul 21, 2016 14:42:17 GMT 1
Say your opinion
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Post by Eradicated47 on Jul 21, 2016 15:29:06 GMT 1
Gnome-Pei-Centaur-Zorak-Hyperia/Cyclops
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Post by Tray on Jul 22, 2016 8:28:01 GMT 1
Gnome-Elena-Centaur-Zorak-Cyclops
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Post by naholyr on Jul 22, 2016 14:15:53 GMT 1
Who's "Gnome"?
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Post by karoo on Jul 22, 2016 16:10:03 GMT 1
grump looks like a gnome to them
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Post by Steviesotroll on Jul 22, 2016 18:44:37 GMT 1
Pikachu - Psyduck - Charmander - Butterfree - Poliwag/Squirtel (for heal)
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Post by mogrim on Aug 16, 2016 15:13:55 GMT 1
Would be nice to hear more opinions on this, especially from experienced and active players.
On my young server (only 6-7 people are lvl 70 right now) nobody ever uses Grump. And I guess Helena is not too good, especially after Zorak was introduced.
My team is Dracula, Pixie, Centaur, Zorak and Merlin (I use same heroes for attack and defence). I replace Merlin with Hyperia when attacking a team with Zorak. It works good, but I guess it's because other players on my server are also not very experienced. I'm not sure about Merlin on defence, as Zorak can one-shot him. Pixie is also super squishy, usually she either dies instantly or demolishes everything. I have almost all heroes available, what hero combination you would call a dream team right now?
Thanks in advance.
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Post by wildchild on Aug 16, 2016 21:30:31 GMT 1
I use elemix-hyperia-farand-centaur-zorak. Held 1st for nearly two weeks now. Obviously not everyone can have elemix, so for a f2p team id replace elemix with drac/pixie. Farand is amazing in attack and defence, id highly recommend everyone getting their hands on him.
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Post by mogrim on Aug 17, 2016 9:49:12 GMT 1
I use elemix-hyperia-farand-centaur-zorak. Held 1st for nearly two weeks now. Obviously not everyone can have elemix, so for a f2p team id replace elemix with drac/pixie. Farand is amazing in attack and defence, id highly recommend everyone getting their hands on him. Thanks, very cool. If I replace Elemix, for example, with Drac, won't his mobility become a problem if the opponents will lure him and attack him with 4 or 5 heroes on the first round, killing or nearly killing him? My Farand is also only 2-star now (other heroes 4-star), so I'll have to replace him for now as well, I guess. Also, what do you use for attacking - almost the same team, or something different? Screenshots with formation would also be appreciated.
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Post by wildchild on Aug 17, 2016 10:05:17 GMT 1
Haven't had to attack anyone in a while, but that really depends on what defense team you're coming up against. You are correct in thinking that drac can be lured off to die, I've seen him die round one in some cases. The trick is placement. Having drac and centaur close together gives you a greater chance that they will fight together. Centaur also having mobility 4 in round one allows them to move together. Hyperia and farand tend to stick together and attack similar heroes while zorak will naturally go in search of healers, then low defense heroes. Centaur is a magnet for enemy heroes. He will nearly always be a priority target to be attacked, which can shelter your squishy heroes from harm(drac/pixie). RyanT wrote some very intelligent and interesting posts about heroes having priority targets and how to use this to your advantage. Learning how heroes behave in arena can very well be the difference. Going back to placement I tend to place all my heroes as close to the enemy as possible, as zorak can be left in the wilderness sometimes and I prefer taking the fight to the enemy, even in defense. Hope this helps and remember the heroes never act randomly, they have set targets and actions, try to learn these.
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Post by naholyr on Aug 17, 2016 10:35:21 GMT 1
My server is still very young but I've been surprisingly (because I'm not such a strategist, but watching replays can learn you so much) successful : Holding good my position around 5-10 for about two weeks, lost only 4 times yet (around 10%) upper ranks are hard, trusted by lvl 70 purple+2 with p2w heroes. And I desperately suck at attacking. My main issue is with Pixie who sometimes dies without even dealing one damage. So squishy in melee I should try to replace her with Aqua (not going into melee, but a target for Zorak) or even a second tank like Grump. Anything that could disable an enemy for 2-3 rounds and still surviving (Pixie fails hard on surviving). On the other point, this works well now, so maybe it's cool she dies while others hit hard
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Post by wildchild on Aug 17, 2016 11:12:02 GMT 1
Here's a screen shot of my current lineup and one of what would most likely be my f2p one. Don't be afraid change your lineup from time to time as well. Never hurts to keep your opponents on their toes. Attachments:
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Post by mogrim on Aug 17, 2016 12:34:22 GMT 1
Here's a screen shot of my current lineup and one of what would most likely be my f2p one. Don't be afraid change your lineup from time to time as well. Never hurts to keep your opponents on their toes. That is all very helpful, thank you. As for hero target priorities, they are indeed not too hard to figure out. Pixie was awesome before purple+1, because other heroes didn't target her, but after purple+1 they all suddenly switched from Centaur/Dracula to Pixie/Centaur, and now she dies like a fly. Or maybe some update changed her to be attacked more often, I dunno. Anyway, I like her, and her Lullaby gives a 20% chance that enemy Zorak will lose most of his awesomeness. Sleep on Centaur, or any other hero that does crazy things turn 1, is also very nice. Now I just hope that I can evolve Farand fast enough. Right now I'm using Merlin to give that Pixie a chance to survive longer, but I'm not sure if his damage reduction is really too useful against purple+2 heroes. For now it looks like I'm the only person on my server with 4* Zorak, lol, so Merlin usually even stays alive. But I guess I will change him for Hyperia after reading all these threads. And another thought: what do you think of putting something like Cyclops instead of Pixie/Dracula (Elemix replacement)? Or do ranged heroes just underperform?
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Post by Tray on Aug 17, 2016 13:09:29 GMT 1
im rang 3 right now (maybe 4 at evening, max)
def - dracula,centaurus,grump,cyclops,zorak atk - dracula,centaurus,pixie,cyclops/hyperia,zorak
all top 4 on our server using Grump in def he is grand obstacle in battle with his Taunt
heroes in def are chosen for one purpose - not win, but survive 10 rounds but! you not win with only high def and low atk heroes hence, grump,centaurus and cyclops are chosen for high def, but zorak and dracula for their atk in def
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Post by wildchild on Aug 17, 2016 13:36:23 GMT 1
Id also highly recommend using hyperia in defense. She has such awesome CC abilities and can be such a killer. But yes having a range option can definitely have its advantages, and Cyclops has great tank qualities plus his ult can be used in close quarters.
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Post by lionspaw on Aug 18, 2016 1:51:47 GMT 1
I use elemix-hyperia-farand-centaur-zorak. Held 1st for nearly two weeks now. Obviously not everyone can have elemix, so for a f2p team id replace elemix with drac/pixie. Farand is amazing in attack and defence, id highly recommend everyone getting their hands on him. Can you explain why Farand is so good?
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Post by wildchild on Aug 18, 2016 4:30:38 GMT 1
Like when zorak was introduced, he just changes the tempo of the fight. He has tank qualities, but is a tank killer himself. His ability rounds 2,5,8 reduce one enemies mobility to 1 and inflict bleeding. He isn't really a priority target as I've explained before, which allows him to generally roam around at will being a nuisance. And finally his constantly sucking the enemies defense which in turn gives tour heroes a big advantage in close fights.
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Post by mogrim on Aug 18, 2016 11:52:17 GMT 1
Like when zorak was introduced, he just changes the tempo of the fight. He has tank qualities, but is a tank killer himself. His ability rounds 2,5,8 reduce one enemies mobility to 1 and inflict bleeding. He isn't really a priority target as I've explained before, which allows him to generally roam around at will being a nuisance. And finally his constantly sucking the enemies defense which in turn gives tour heroes a big advantage in close fights. Nice replies, thank you. By the way, how many crystals does it take to get him to 5*? Is he worth using as 3* or 4*, or I should just switch to other heroes if it looks like I won't get him to 5* in reasonable time/ever?
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Post by wildchild on Aug 18, 2016 12:45:28 GMT 1
I just bought every pack that was available. Crystals not being a huge concern when I take 1st in arena more often than not. I started using him defending 1st when he was 4* max equip and he more than held his own.
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Post by finest on Aug 18, 2016 17:39:21 GMT 1
coop + farrand.
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