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Post by mogrim on Aug 29, 2016 13:17:01 GMT 1
today im first on arena with that def Looks exactly like my def, haha, but I have Drac instead of Grump. I'm rank 1 on my server, too, but it's because my server is still very young. I'm working on getting Grump and Farand to 4*. Do you think I shouldn't use Drac for defence at all? Sometimes I lose because he is killed very fast by Helena and other ranged heroes, but I'm worried if my heroes will do enough damage without him. What if attacking Pixie goes unchecked and petrifies all my heroes? Also, which hero you would replace for Farand? Maybe Cyclops? (Cyclops is a beast with the current layout, but for the open maps he looks like a weak link)
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Post by mogrim on Aug 29, 2016 15:07:22 GMT 1
farand is a beast! well worth it! i started using him at 3* and hqvnt stopped using him. Thanks for sharing. If I understand his Mutative Attack special correctly, though, he hits harder, if the target has little damage. If it's correct, I would guess he is very good against tanks (Centaur, Grump), but is he still good against high-attack heroes, like Dracula/Pixie? On my server, most of people still use too many aggressive heroes and few tanks. Would you still suggest using him in such meta even on 3*?
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Post by 181Light on Aug 29, 2016 19:29:51 GMT 1
farand is a beast! well worth it! i started using him at 3* and hqvnt stopped using him. Thanks for sharing. If I understand his Mutative Attack special correctly, though, he hits harder, if the target has little damage. If it's correct, I would guess he is very good against tanks (Centaur, Grump), but is he still good against high-attack heroes, like Dracula/Pixie? On my server, most of people still use too many aggressive heroes and few tanks. Would you still suggest using him in such meta even on 3*? This is team held first for 2 days strait... It was so strong, other top ranked players copied it. One of my guild mates hit with an attack this morning that made it an easy win. I used that same attack to beat others. I'm going to be working on a new defence soon
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Post by wildchild on Aug 29, 2016 20:58:56 GMT 1
They changed the wording on his mutative attack. Yes Farand is pretty much a tank killer. As for using drac in defense, it is viable. You just want to make sure you use other heroes with 4 mobility so he isn't left in the wilderness to die. He can be squishy, but can also turn the battle on its head with his awesome critical hit rate and damaging ultimate. Attachments:
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Post by Tray on Aug 30, 2016 5:43:57 GMT 1
its a bad idea for me, grump is a must in def
but farrand instead of centaurus... maybe is a good idea
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Post by mogrim on Aug 30, 2016 10:25:34 GMT 1
Thanks for the replies.
>181Light >>This is team held first for 2 days strait...
Nice, I'll try that out even with my 3* Farand. Will be interesting to see, how he is performing in the meta with not many tanks.
>wildchild >>You just want to make sure you use other heroes with 4 mobility so he isn't left in the wilderness to die. He can be squishy, but can also turn the battle on its head with his awesome critical hit rate and damaging ultimate.
Yeah, rank 2 on my server uses Centaur to stun my Drac, and his Helena+Merlin have about 40% chance to kill my Drac on round 2, before he can attack a single time. But if he survives, he heals up and kills everything.
>Tray >>its a bad idea >>for me, grump is a must in def
My Drac is 5* maxed, and Grump is 3* not maxed. Also, guys above seem to like Drac in def. But I'll definitely try Grump, when I get him to 4* at least.
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Post by Tray on Aug 30, 2016 11:34:24 GMT 1
its def not working - i was killed with second attempt by enemy with nixaes
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Post by mogrim on Oct 3, 2016 17:54:22 GMT 1
its def not working - i was killed with second attempt by enemy with nixaes
Yeah, similar setups doesn't work anymore on my server (even though nobody has VIP heroes). Now I see your point when you said that Cyclops is better than Dracula On my server, this setup is countered by Helena+Merlin+Grump+Centaur+Farand. Other guys did it to me a few times, and today I also managed to do it. It takes a few tries. It works like that: defending Zorak is useless because of attacking Grump, and attacking Centaur stuns defending Dracula. Attacking Helena+Merlin kill Dracula very fast. Then Zorak dies because Grump bullies him. Helena+Merlin are very good damage dealers with nice utility skills, so they manage to finish off other defending heroes, while they finish off your Centaur/Grump. I'll probably upload screenshots later. Against such teams, Cyclops is better for def than Dracula, because he is ranged and tanky. Helena and Merlin can't finish him off in time, as they attack for 1/2 of damage, and he doesn't attack them in melee, so he doesn't take damage from electric shield. He usually survives until turn 11 and wins the game. But then, more classic attack (with a lot of strong melee heroes) can beat defence with Cyclops, because in melee Cyclops does no damage compared to Dracula. He can cast ultimate once but it's not enough. This is kind of like rock–paper–scissors IMO.
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Post by 181Light on Oct 3, 2016 19:03:29 GMT 1
its def not working - i was killed with second attempt by enemy with nixaes
I should poke my head into this thread more often, no, that set up was pre-nix. My current set up is not as effective as that one was pre-nix
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Post by mogrim on Oct 4, 2016 7:54:57 GMT 1
its def not working - i was killed with second attempt by enemy with nixaes
I should poke my head into this thread more often, no, that set up was pre-nix. My current set up is not as effective as that one was pre-nix As I explained 1 post above, even without Nix this setup can be dealt with (I won against it even with Merlin 4* without some items and Cyclops 4*, all defending heroes were maxed). But it was really good, with this combination of heroes I held on to rank 1 for about 25-30 days. I decided to stop playing the game, though. It takes too much time to play, and I can't plan anything for 10 PM coz of the arena. If anybody cares, anyway Good luck, guys!
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Post by Tray on Oct 12, 2016 14:32:56 GMT 1
what def is usefull now against nixaes? people say - lazar,persei and another
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