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Post by 181Light on Oct 7, 2016 23:12:18 GMT 1
It took the mortal wounding on one Helena and the Death of a grump to get Zorak on his own and unhurt to make this video.
the grump i used in the video was from the guild exchange.
as so many people, still are saying Nix is OP and the devs only give OP powers to tge VIP p2p... i present Zorak 1 on 1...
next time someone says only vip heroes are OP... please show them this free to obtain hero from Sky
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Post by zalastro on Oct 8, 2016 3:03:28 GMT 1
First of all, thanks for the videos, especially the 1 on 1 with Helena surprised me a lot.
Now regarding your other claim, you have proven perfectly that a 5* P+2 Zorak is more or less equivalent to a 3* P+2 Nixaes (in fact I think Zorak lost even more times).
What makes you claim that Zorak is OP and that 5* Nixaes is not?
But let´s continue your own statement and use some basic logic: You say Zorak is OP 2. A 3* Nixaes beats Zorak 1 on 1 and beats basically same number 1 on 1, this means logically that 3* Nixaes is OP, too. 5* Nixaes is more powerful than 3* Nixaes, right? So this would mean Nixaes 5* is gamebreaking! (Not my opinion though, I consider him just severely OP and since on my server the only 5* owner is my guildmember I don´t have that much problem yet).
Just added: Case you didn´t battle yet a 5* Nixaes: What makes a 5* so much more powerful than a 3*? Easy, a 3* you can kill with various composition in round 1 first time, killing the egg shortly after. A 5* survives normally round 1, bringing in a second attack + AoE and keeps Heroes form attacking other heroes.
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Post by finest on Oct 9, 2016 20:01:38 GMT 1
First of all, thanks for the videos, especially the 1 on 1 with Helena surprised me a lot. Now regarding your other claim, you have proven perfectly that a 5* P+2 Zorak is more or less equivalent to a 3* P+2 Nixaes (in fact I think Zorak lost even more times). What makes you claim that Zorak is OP and that 5* Nixaes is not? But let´s continue your own statement and use some basic logic: You say Zorak is OP 2. A 3* Nixaes beats Zorak 1 on 1 and beats basically same number 1 on 1, this means logically that 3* Nixaes is OP, too. 5* Nixaes is more powerful than 3* Nixaes, right? So this would mean Nixaes 5* is gamebreaking! (Not my opinion though, I consider him just severely OP and since on my server the only 5* owner is my guildmember I don´t have that much problem yet). Just added: Case you didn´t battle yet a 5* Nixaes: What makes a 5* so much more powerful than a 3*? Easy, a 3* you can kill with various composition in round 1 first time, killing the egg shortly after. A 5* survives normally round 1, bringing in a second attack + AoE and keeps Heroes form attacking other heroes. you are correct about the Nix is OP but what makes it different from 5* Nix and 3* is the amount of 30000 gems or even more to get it. If people can afford a 5* Nix, it is ok for them to win.
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Post by Bob on Oct 9, 2016 22:37:26 GMT 1
First of all, thanks for the videos, especially the 1 on 1 with Helena surprised me a lot. Now regarding your other claim, you have proven perfectly that a 5* P+2 Zorak is more or less equivalent to a 3* P+2 Nixaes (in fact I think Zorak lost even more times). What makes you claim that Zorak is OP and that 5* Nixaes is not? But let´s continue your own statement and use some basic logic: You say Zorak is OP 2. A 3* Nixaes beats Zorak 1 on 1 and beats basically same number 1 on 1, this means logically that 3* Nixaes is OP, too. 5* Nixaes is more powerful than 3* Nixaes, right? So this would mean Nixaes 5* is gamebreaking! (Not my opinion though, I consider him just severely OP and since on my server the only 5* owner is my guildmember I don´t have that much problem yet). Just added: Case you didn´t battle yet a 5* Nixaes: What makes a 5* so much more powerful than a 3*? Easy, a 3* you can kill with various composition in round 1 first time, killing the egg shortly after. A 5* survives normally round 1, bringing in a second attack + AoE and keeps Heroes form attacking other heroes. you are correct about the Nix is OP but what makes it different from 5* Nix and 3* is the amount of 30000 gems or even more to get it. If people can afford a 5* Nix, it is ok for them to win. Anybody spending more than 300$ on this game are complete idiots let alone spending 1000$+ You guys need to reevaluated your priorities in life. Idiots!!!!!
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Post by finest on Oct 10, 2016 8:58:21 GMT 1
you are correct about the Nix is OP but what makes it different from 5* Nix and 3* is the amount of 30000 gems or even more to get it. If people can afford a 5* Nix, it is ok for them to win. Anybody spending more than 300$ on this game are complete idiots let alone spending 1000$+ You guys need to reevaluated your priorities in life. Idiots!!!!! Pathetic. You should thank those people for funding the game. A fine dinner at steak house for 2 cost me 300 bucks, and I only spend like 500$ on a game I spend hours on. There is differences between jealousy and pathetic jealousy, get it right. You play any mobile game, you would expect it p2w , and dont whine. For people who spend like 3000$ for vip15 and 5* all premium heroes, they deserve the win .
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Post by Tray on Oct 10, 2016 12:06:08 GMT 1
then what is the reason to game for other people if they cannot win?
let's go then pay money for places on arena. why battling?
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Post by 181Light on Oct 10, 2016 18:10:52 GMT 1
then what is the reason to game for other people if they cannot win? let's go then pay money for places on arena. why battling? There is no winning in an mmorpg. There is only who's raking in the most diamonds at the payout buzzer. After you have maxed out everything, the diamonds you can win are ultimately useful to the VIP11 or higher because it gives them more rolls for more ss to their primuium heroes. I saved up 13k diamonds since the last time Elemix was up, I spent all of them this morning trying for Elemix SS this morning. I managed to walk away with 90. www.mobcrush.com/Lightstorm/v/57fbad99b8aedfb6bcf42eb4Batteling is fun! That is why we do it. Batteling is so much fun, some of us don't mind supporting a great game that offers up some really cool p2p heroes. I've proven more than enough times I don't need them to take or defend rank 1. It's like any other board game that you can take off the shelf and play. It's not about the winning, or loosing, it's about the fun you have playing it. If you like the game, support it! You will get some pretty sweet rewards doing so. If you just want to play for free, great... but why try to tear down game incentives to encourage people to contribute towards its development?
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Post by NewPlayerFK on Jul 20, 2017 21:13:01 GMT 1
I know that's an old thread but this 'finest' donatello guy is just ridiculous. The whole point of a good game is that the player who actually PLAYS well wins, not the one who spent hundreds of $ on it. The biggest companies actually make games like that. You can buy fancy skins and all the characters in DotA or LoL, you can buy shiny cards in HS, but if you play worse you will be lower rank than a better free player. Also don't try to play the saint here saying crap about supporting the greedy devs. You pay to get an unfair advantage against 99,99% of players who doesn't waste ridiculous amounts of money for the flash game(AAA projects cost way less than even 100$, games are historically one of the cheapest kinds of recreation). You are basically a 'legitimate' cheater if you buy premium heroes. There are 'Forbes' magazine for those who want to compete at spending capabilities. If you try doing that in a game probably largely played by children, then... that's what i'd call 'pathetic'. P.S: Also devs blatantly declare that premium heroes weren't even ment to be balanced, they have around 15-30% higher base stats than other heroes, so there is no point to argue about them not being OP, 181Light.
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Post by gurko on Jul 20, 2017 23:34:41 GMT 1
So... I have been playing the game for a while and ... I found a good team that can beat VIP heroes... 1 or 2 times from 10 attacks. And this is a F2P heroes even without Zorak So what is the point... you know. It is very dificult but not so much I hope that there are better but here is my attack team: Farand, Hyperia, Dracula, Centaur and..... Perseus Perseus is the key... when Nixae hits Farand it is not so big deal After that Perseus makes his magic... and after 5 critical hits on the very fast Nixae the second round starts with Perseus hitting the damaged egg and killing it. So the fight to the end is with good balance. Dracula makes a strong hit on the golden dragon and sometimes with a good boost from Perseus kill... the beast is dead in the 2nd round I have used this strategy to harass the Vip player and even my Centaur, Perseus and Dracula are not maxed in loot(lack of crystal shards .The VIP rating is 38000 with 4 or even 5 OP heroes but Nixae spead is a weak spot. Our server top players use: Nix, Elemix, Gladius, Farand and Zorak ... If they change the last two with Pegasus and Neil it is even easier And all of the vips are full 5* and all items it is sure .... 38000
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Post by Bobberooni on Jul 20, 2017 23:36:21 GMT 1
P.S: Also devs blatantly declare that premium heroes weren't even ment to be balanced, they have around 15-30% higher base stats than other heroes, so there is no point to argue about them not being OP, 181Light. Why would anyone spend any sort of money for VIP heroes if they were just as good a regular heroes? How would the devs get any money to continue running the game?
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Post by gurko on Jul 20, 2017 23:44:38 GMT 1
I realy liked the game because there are so strong and OP heroes and my goal is to find a way to beat them. If it was easy it will not be interesting. This is the hard mode and that is the real deal
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Post by zalastro on Jul 21, 2017 1:03:54 GMT 1
P.S: Also devs blatantly declare that premium heroes weren't even ment to be balanced, they have around 15-30% higher base stats than other heroes, so there is no point to argue about them not being OP, 181Light. Why would anyone spend any sort of money for VIP heroes if they were just as good a regular heroes? How would the devs get any money to continue running the game? People normally pay for exclusive items, comfort and time advantage. No need for OP items, but it's the faster way. Lol is an example but there are others.
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Post by NewPlayerFK on Aug 15, 2017 17:31:06 GMT 1
Why would anyone spend any sort of money for VIP heroes if they were just as good a regular heroes? How would the devs get any money to continue running the game? Well, 181Light kinda tried to argue about this OP crap being balanced through multiple threads. Have you ever heard about big game companies and their games I mentioned before? They somehow manage to. Even the first game of this "6 items to upgrade" type had none of this bullshit, and at least a few clones I've seen. Games with this 6 items pattern already have huge incentive to spend some money cause of fast raiding... I may also ask why spending money on OP heroes which, as I mentioned before, 99.99% won't buy? Because 300$ isn't even close to an adequate price for a game, check steam or something to see how much games usually cost. You may not even think about it that much yourself but you basicly pay to get an unfair advantage, to cheat in other words. Kinda mentioned it before, but the essence of the matter is, as Tray said here, what's the point of playing then? This crap doesn't even make the game unplayable, unlike many other p2w unworthy of attention garbage, it's probably still even beatable in arena, since being an attacker is a huge advantage, just wrote it for the sake of truth, I guess...
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Post by Bobberooni on Aug 16, 2017 4:40:59 GMT 1
Why would anyone spend any sort of money for VIP heroes if they were just as good a regular heroes? How would the devs get any money to continue running the game? Well, 181Light kinda tried to argue about this OP crap being balanced through multiple threads. Have you ever heard about big game companies and their games I mentioned before? They somehow manage to. Even the first game of this "6 items to upgrade" type had none of this bullshit, and at least a few clones I've seen. Games with this 6 items pattern already have huge incentive to spend some money cause of fast raiding... I may also ask why spending money on OP heroes which, as I mentioned before, 99.99% won't buy? Because 300$ isn't even close to an adequate price for a game, check steam or something to see how much games usually cost. You may not even think about it that much yourself but you basicly pay to get an unfair advantage, to cheat in other words. Kinda mentioned it before, but the essence of the matter is, as Tray said here, what's the point of playing then? This crap doesn't even make the game unplayable, unlike many other p2w unworthy of attention garbage, it's probably still even beatable in arena, since being an attacker is a huge advantage, just wrote it for the sake of truth, I guess... The devs could have definately re-organized the incentive to pay, but I do have to say that VIP heroes are far from unbeatable with F2P heroes. I have a 5 star Nixaes Elemix And Gladius, and I still get beat by a guy on my server regularly (he beats many of us top dogs) with Lazarus, Farand, Centuar, Hyperia and Zorak. He does not have VIP heroes but stays in top 10, when almost everyone in the top ten has at least 1 or two highly leveled VIP heroes.
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