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Post by Chemenical on Sept 7, 2016 18:46:19 GMT 1
I can't seem to get my arena team to the next level. I have only 5 Purple +2's: Merlin, Helena, Kamus, Cyclops, Pixie. Collectively about a 23800 rating (all are 4*, most are fully equipped). I can consistently beat a team ranked about 20000 but it's hit or miss against teams above that. I usually end the day with a 35 ranking and sometimes, with luck, a 20 ranking.
For Arena, should I be subbing in a different hero? Hyperia, Zorak and Grump are all Purple +1 for me. 4*. Drac and Farrand are just purple.
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Post by Chemenical on Sept 7, 2016 19:16:58 GMT 1
NB- the teams above me (in the 20's) all have five purple +2's, 4*. Typically Dracula or Grump or Pixie, sometimes all 3. The purple 2 Drac seems to be the one who always gives my team trouble.
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Post by wildchild on Sept 7, 2016 22:18:37 GMT 1
Each server may very well have their own meta for attack/defense. A easy way is to literally copy the defense of higher rank opponents, this will generally give success. If you're asking my opinion id say hyperia is a must, zorak as well. Centaur goes a long way and grump is a pain in the neck too. Farand should be in the line up too of you buy sufficient boxes of his.
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Post by naholyr on Sept 8, 2016 6:47:00 GMT 1
Pixie sucks in arena usually, until you're lucky and she stones half the team. But that won't do it in defense. Good defense team includes good tanks and you have none I'd your next priority should be Centaur/Grump. Then you need DPS, Kamus and Cyclop can do the trick while you have them but Dracula and Zorak will do better. You can farm them with pond (90K every day for 10 wishes will give you 2 Drac and sometimes a few Grump, good deal!) and Sky Arena (Zorak*5 for 600 sky coins, must be the only thing you buy there), so they won't even cost you endurance. So you can spend endurance and classic arena coins with the incomparable Hyperia That lets 2 or 3 slots to play with depending on the meta but I'd say Grump+Zorak+Hyperia are the universal basics. I've added Centaur and Dracula and it defends very well (rank 1-5 on Aether for weeks now, never held rank 1 more than 2 days but it's hard when top 10 is essentially vip 11+ :/).
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Post by Tray on Sept 8, 2016 6:57:51 GMT 1
as variant def - zorak5*,cyclops5*,farand4*,centaurus4*,hyperia5*
im using earlier grump 5*, but centaurus more usefull with stuns for me
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Post by Chemenical on Sept 8, 2016 15:34:15 GMT 1
Thanks all. Looks like I have a plan! I built my team to fight in Sky arena but I learned it's not as good in regular arena. I was able to get my Zorak to purple +2 4*, so I'll focus on Farrand, Hyperia and Grump.
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Post by naholyr on Sept 8, 2016 16:04:33 GMT 1
Honestly I find Grump better than Centaur as his power triggers every turn, which means an opponent heroe will waste a turn, every turn, hitting this bag of hit points and not using his special. Much more reliable I think I thought Grump was crap, and it was, until I maxed him and suddenly he made my team wonderful
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Post by midori on Sept 8, 2016 16:28:40 GMT 1
it depends on the teams on your server. i always use centaur in attack and defense.and sometimes grump. farand is nice if he has at least 4* and equip. dracula and hyperia and zorak is a must to have on arena. but it depends on the compilation of the team.
my team is usually -defence: centaur, hyperia, farand4*, nixaes/dracula, zorak. or i switch to grump. helena is not full equiped so its hard to defend top 3 on pixieEU.
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Post by mogrim on Sept 8, 2016 17:02:52 GMT 1
It's not about not being VIP11, it's about having maxed heroes.
On my young server, I'm rank 1 for two weeks already with Zorak 5*, Drac 5*, Farand 4*, Hyperia 4* and Centaur 4*. All of them have max equipment, and players without max equipment usually can't kill a single hero when attacking.
For attack, I replace some of them with Pixie and/or Cyclops.
You need to decide, which heroes to max, because it's hard to max many of them at the same time. IMO, heroes I listed (and also Grump) are the top tier.
But if your server is old, like Deltora or something, you need even more patience.
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Post by Chemenical on Sept 8, 2016 17:44:44 GMT 1
You need to decide, which heroes to max, because it's hard to max many of them at the same time. IMO, heroes I listed (and also Grump) are the top tier. Truth. I started playing several months ago and focused on heroes who could help in all 3 of Sky, Arena and Boss. Merlin, Helen, Pixie, Kamus and Cyclops fit the bill at the time (plus a beefed up Igor and borrowed Elemix for Boss). I kept Centaur at Purple +1 because he was so powerful already for Sky arena, I gave his equipment to other heroes.
My Sky arena team is now good enough to get me 10 towers every day, so I can focus on getting my Arena team up.
In retrospect I had this bass ackwards. I should have built an Arena team so maximize the crystals and arena stones I get. Live & learn.
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Post by mogrim on Sept 9, 2016 6:58:07 GMT 1
In retrospect I had this bass ackwards. I should have built an Arena team so maximize the crystals and arena stones I get. Live & learn.
Well, Sky arena is important, as it gives you Zorak 5* and then Sword/Wings/Essences. I focused on Sky arena as well, but close to level 70 I started giving my equipment to Arena-heroes, instead of Sky-arena-heroes, and it worked good. Also, heroes you mentioned are allright for arena, but I'd say mostly for attacking. Sometimes my team is killed by Helena+Merlin+Isha+Centaur+smth, as they lure Drac and kill him on turn 2. You can forget about the def for the moment, and just try to successfully attack at 21:59 (or whatever it is in your time zone), and get good prizes.
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Post by Tray on Sept 9, 2016 9:52:30 GMT 1
that def is not work on our server, drac is lured and finished really fast and its game over
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Post by mogrim on Sept 9, 2016 10:28:24 GMT 1
that def is not work on our server, drac is lured and finished really fast and its game over I tried replacing Drac with Cyclops, but it was much weaker. When I did it, people started winning against me, so I had to put Drac back. Yes, if the opponent doesn't use any 4-mobility heroes, he lures Drac in and it often dies before attacking once. But my other 4 heroes usually do the job of surviving. And against other strategies, though, Drac is very good - it's only luring strat that kills him. I'm considering replacing him with Isha or something like that, when I get her maxed out, but right now my only replacement is Cyclops, and I'm not impressed with his performance. Best idea for def is to survive 10 turns, and Drac is not very good for that. But, IMO, def team also needs something, that does serious damage (besides Zorak), otherwise 5 well-placed opponent heroes just go ham and survive for too long, killing your stuff.
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Post by Chemenical on Sept 9, 2016 17:27:27 GMT 1
So I used books to level up Grump and, what a huge difference. I used an attacking team of Helena, Grump, Zorak, Pixie (all purple 2 and 4*) plus Centaur (purple 1 5*) and got into the teens for the first time against a fully defended opponent. Normally the only way I get into the teens is if someone uses a 1-hero defense trying to get knocked down.
Grump occupied 2 heroes with his Taunt, while Centaur or Pixie stunned/ stoned heroes.
Thx all for the advice. Next up, crack the top 10.
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Post by Tray on Sept 9, 2016 17:51:17 GMT 1
on our server you dont win vs my team (zorak,hyperia,centaurus,cyclops,farand) with your team, she is not so damaging first defs zoraks ult will be on your helena and she is finished maxed cyclops is a beast - his dodged is inhuman, im shocked
2 mogrim your team (centaurus,farand,dracula,hyperia,zorak) will be trampled with that team - pixie,dracula,hyperia,zorak,cyclops yesterday i killed same team as yours on our server the idea that farand and centaurus lured by cyclops, at that time your others heroes are killed by pixie,dracula,hyperia,zorak
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Post by midori on Sept 10, 2016 17:46:54 GMT 1
there is no team that you cant beat. - but zorak, hyperia, farand, centaur, (cyclops, elemix, nixaes, Raina) is a very good defence team. - some may use grump and helena as well. she wont die in 2 attacks against zorak. not when she is maxed.
p.s. elemix, gladius, nixaes, pegasus are all worth it with 3*. when they are on 4*+ they will be stronger then every other hero. (stats)
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Post by Tray on Sept 11, 2016 8:08:18 GMT 1
with that i agree
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Post by finest on Sept 11, 2016 8:12:06 GMT 1
on our server you dont win vs my team (zorak,hyperia,centaurus,cyclops,farand) with your team, she is not so damaging first defs zoraks ult will be on your helena and she is finished maxed cyclops is a beast - his dodged is inhuman, im shocked 2 mogrim your team (centaurus,farand,dracula,hyperia,zorak) will be trampled with that team - pixie,dracula,hyperia,zorak,cyclops yesterday i killed same team as yours on our server the idea that farand and centaurus lured by cyclops, at that time your others heroes are killed by pixie,dracula,hyperia,zorak Centaur and farrand are lured by cyclop? Lolololol.more like stun and block cyclop .omg. farrand is a tank killer. You dont want farrand blocking your cyclop .
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Post by naholyr on Sept 11, 2016 9:56:29 GMT 1
on our server you dont win vs my team (zorak,hyperia,centaurus,cyclops,farand) with your team, she is not so damaging first defs zoraks ult will be on your helena and she is finished maxed cyclops is a beast - his dodged is inhuman, im shocked 2 mogrim your team (centaurus,farand,dracula,hyperia,zorak) will be trampled with that team - pixie,dracula,hyperia,zorak,cyclops yesterday i killed same team as yours on our server the idea that farand and centaurus lured by cyclops, at that time your others heroes are killed by pixie,dracula,hyperia,zorak My guess is you've been very lucky with your hits or the placement was perfect, because this sounds very suboptimal to me
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Post by Tray on Sept 11, 2016 10:49:38 GMT 1
why not? if you dont know, farand is a tanl killer, ok, i agree wuth that, BUT with low atk, ... and cyclops has high atk
P.S. finest, you use too much omg and lol, are you a little school boy?
2 naholyr i killed that party 3-4 times luck has the place to be, but placement has great importance too
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