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Post by santok on Jul 1, 2016 16:17:56 GMT 1
So after lots of reading, seems most people say to stay away from Drakon. I know about Alexander and Mucker. Are all the other hero stones random? I seem to notice lots of Isha, Ives, some Cyclops.
Some perspective, on a newer server at level 33 I'm still top 40 arena. I've got 2300 arena coins, do o still stay away from Alex and Drakon? I thought I've seen Dracula before, but not recently. Any tips would be great.
Edit: the extra heroes I've received are infernio, Trinity and Pixie. I could see Drakon being another nice 4-mobility attacker since I'll never have Pegasus, but 80 arena coins is a big investment!
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Post by drea on Jul 1, 2016 17:28:27 GMT 1
When i was a newbie(lvl<40) i focused on buying soulstones only, like : aqua, zorak, dracula, trinity, and many other useful heroes Now that i have most of them, the next best investment would be the equipment to promote my heroes to purple level (mars courage, fallen wings, etc) and some hard to get (3*) soulstones
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Post by Uvogline on Jul 4, 2016 14:27:07 GMT 1
So, in a first time, we should focus on getting new powerful and useful heroes Soulstones. And afterwards focus on stuff for purple level ?
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Post by fcostarocha on Jul 4, 2016 15:48:37 GMT 1
So, in a first time, we should focus on getting new powerful and useful heroes Soulstones. And afterwards focus on stuff for purple level ? First get your heroes to 5 stars. Them you will know enough of this game to buy the right things. lol. You only need hard to get stuff at lvl 66 or more.
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Post by Itzatrap on Jul 5, 2016 21:20:42 GMT 1
I've been playing this game for about a month and half, so I'm not exactly new and not one of the OGs. I've spent some money on the game, but not enough for Dolphin, so I, too, will not have Pegasus, Elemix, or Gladius. I started at a newer server and I am in the top 20s for stars, rating, and arena. In arenas, I typically get inside the top 20s. The strategy that I used is as follows:
I used Sky Arena Coins and Arena coins to build an arena team (I chose Drac, Zorak, Pixie, Centaur, and Merlin... they might not be the absolute best team, but it serves its purpose and I like that team). After I've built my arena team, I also made sure to build Trinity and Aqua. Meanwhile, I used all my energy to collect the loot necessary to make my top 5 purple.
After my top 5 were purple, I made sure to make Trinity and Aqua purple as well. I also tried to make a few other guys purple, namely Pei (one of the best range guys in my opinion), Cyclops (the other one of the best ranged guys), Kamus & Isha (great for boss battles). Eventually, you may want to build pretty much everyone so you can do Heroic, but concentrate on 5-10 now so you can finish Sky Arena no matter who they throw at you.
I think it's more important to get to Purple than to star up to get that 4th skill. After getting Purple, there will be a time where all you can do is level your guys up and get them to a higher * rating as you'll need to wait until they are high enough level for Purple +1 materials.
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Post by naholyr on Jul 5, 2016 23:27:26 GMT 1
"finish sky arena no matter who they throw at you" It's quite hard when you have 3-4 guys p2w on a new server and as there are few people you keep getting them in Castle 9 or 10... Facing a team built on p2w heroes with 5 levels more can consume a lot more than 10 heroes lol Good advice anyway, but life on a new server is not necessarily easy, as you will quickly feel lonely in your top 20 when the top 10 is properly unbeatable ^^ and there is not enough people to provide fair opponents.
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Post by viruz on Jul 6, 2016 9:16:25 GMT 1
I've been playing this game for about a month and half, so I'm not exactly new and not one of the OGs. I've spent some money on the game, but not enough for Dolphin, so I, too, will not have Pegasus, Elemix, or Gladius. I started at a newer server and I am in the top 20s for stars, rating, and arena. In arenas, I typically get inside the top 20s. The strategy that I used is as follows: I used Sky Arena Coins and Arena coins to build an arena team (I chose Drac, Zorak, Pixie, Centaur, and Merlin... they might not be the absolute best team, but it serves its purpose and I like that team). After I've built my arena team, I also made sure to build Trinity and Aqua. Meanwhile, I used all my energy to collect the loot necessary to make my top 5 purple. After my top 5 were purple, I made sure to make Trinity and Aqua purple as well. I also tried to make a few other guys purple, namely Pei (one of the best range guys in my opinion), Cyclops (the other one of the best ranged guys), Kamus & Isha (great for boss battles). Eventually, you may want to build pretty much everyone so you can do Heroic, but concentrate on 5-10 now so you can finish Sky Arena no matter who they throw at you. I think it's more important to get to Purple than to star up to get that 4th skill. After getting Purple, there will be a time where all you can do is level your guys up and get them to a higher * rating as you'll need to wait until they are high enough level for Purple +1 materials. I have the same 5 except i dont have centaur. Can i substitute hyperia for centaur? Or is centaur a must.
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Post by mogrim on Jul 7, 2016 13:11:07 GMT 1
Hi all, as we started to speak about heroes, I need help with a very serious decision:
While leveling (lvl 45 currently), I want to choose 5-6 heroes, that are pretty good for sky arena and story mode (ideally also decent at arena).
But people on this forum usually mention too many "good" heroes. How to pick?
1) Ranged. I think I shouldn't focus on more than 2 ranged heroes for now, 3 at max. But there are 4 "excellent, almost the best" ranged heroes, and I will have them all in 3 days - Helena, Merlin, Pei and Cyclops. Which of them should I focus on for the time being? Could you please provide some insight on the pros and cons of every hero, and why should we use it over the others in certain situations?
2) Melee. Pixie looks like a rock-star here, I dunno how to do story mode and sky arena without her. This leaves 2-3 more. I have Centaur, Gable, Hyperia, and tomorrow I'll have Dracula. Perseus also looks very good for sky arena and story mode, but he is a "win-more" card (against tough opponents he is pretty weak), and I heard he is useless lategame. Gable looks a bit squishy, Hyperia has a movement of 3, and doesn't have good control like Centaur, so for me she looks a bit weaker, but I heard she is a top-tier as well. Should it be Dracula+Pixie+Centaur? Dracula+Pixie+Gable? Or no Dracula at all?
I'm going to upgrade them to purple, and for now I only have 2 Fallen Wings and 1 Mars's Something, so I need to make a choice.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by naholyr on Jul 7, 2016 20:25:32 GMT 1
Pixie + Helena are staples. Healing is very important. Pixie once purple can get energy so fast she casts her ultimate every two turns. Dracula I almost always select him, he may be rejected in very specific situations like when opponents are much elementals or undead. Same for Zorak (which you did not mention but is very easy to get if you do good in Sky Arena), I'll always get him unless there is no ranged in opponent team. High dps and his teleport ability + disable at turn 1 is incredibly powerful to get rid of opponent healer. After that, you can't really go wrong with Merlin, Pei, Cyclops, Centaur, or Hyperia. They will fit different roles : * Centaur is a very good tank. He stuns (a bit more useful than Pixie's sleep) and has high hp and physical resistance. Cons: average damages and mobility I'd say * Hyperia is mobile and can keep an entire team from using their specials. Cons: she is fragile, she'll die easily in one round making her ability to heal herself good but not so impressive. * Cyclops is a damage dealer + ranged protector. He can resist melee heroes until he will even throw them out with his ultimate, making him a real guardian angel for your other ranged heroes. His explosive shots (turn 2 and 4) are very strong too. Cons: no control, it's only a fighter. * Merlin protects your entire team turn 1, which is very useful if you play aggressively or in arena. Good damages, can target multiple heroes with his ultimate and protect an ally. That makes quite a nice set of abilities ! Cons: very squishy (can be one-shot at turn 1 by a critical from Zorak for example) and no control. * Pei can heal himself, and his ultimate is usually fatal. Cons: no control or support (his team boost is nice but cast a bit late and not really game changing). Basically, Merlin vs Pei will be about deciding if you need team protection or an instant killing ultimate. Amongst the one we did not discuss I'd say you can consider Aqua (heal + freezing normal attack which is absolutely insane). To keep the discussion between your pre-selected heroes I'd advise Pixie, Helena, an additional ranged (I hope you have enough Intel to choose between Cyclops Merlin and Pei), Centaur and Dracula. That's pretty much my main team (except I use Zorak instead of additional ranged, cause I never succeeded to choose lol) and it does the job
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Post by mogrim on Jul 7, 2016 21:30:15 GMT 1
Thanks a lot, very thorough answer. Unfortunately, I was fooled by Zorak soulstone's tooltip at sky arena: "Collect 80 to summon Zorak", when it's only 30 needed to unlock him. I only started looking for his soulstones two days ago, and today I bought the first set of Zorak's soulstones. I'm also buying Aqua's stones, but I'm worried about the fact that she is elemental and so she can't be healed - how often does it become a problem? As for ranged heroes dilemma, I won't have enough Fallen Wings to make any ranged purple for a few days at least (already spent one for Helena; Drac and Cent also need them), so I'll have time to decide
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Post by viruz on Jul 8, 2016 1:01:34 GMT 1
Pixie + Helena are staples. Healing is very important. Pixie once purple can get energy so fast she casts her ultimate every two turns. Dracula I almost always select him, he may be rejected in very specific situations like when opponents are much elementals or undead. Same for Zorak (which you did not mention but is very easy to get if you do good in Sky Arena), I'll always get him unless there is no ranged in opponent team. High dps and his teleport ability + disable at turn 1 is incredibly powerful to get rid of opponent healer. After that, you can't really go wrong with Merlin, Pei, Cyclops, Centaur, or Hyperia. They will fit different roles : * Centaur is a very good tank. He stuns (a bit more useful than Pixie's sleep) and has high hp and physical resistance. Cons: average damages and mobility I'd say * Hyperia is mobile and can keep an entire team from using their specials. Cons: she is fragile, she'll die easily in one round making her ability to heal herself good but not so impressive. * Cyclops is a damage dealer + ranged protector. He can resist melee heroes until he will even throw them out with his ultimate, making him a real guardian angel for your other ranged heroes. His explosive shots (turn 2 and 4) are very strong too. Cons: no control, it's only a fighter. * Merlin protects your entire team turn 1, which is very useful if you play aggressively or in arena. Good damages, can target multiple heroes with his ultimate and protect an ally. That makes quite a nice set of abilities ! Cons: very squishy (can be one-shot at turn 1 by a critical from Zorak for example) and no control. * Pei can heal himself, and his ultimate is usually fatal. Cons: no control or support (his team boost is nice but cast a bit late and not really game changing). Basically, Merlin vs Pei will be about deciding if you need team protection or an instant killing ultimate. Amongst the one we did not discuss I'd say you can consider Aqua (heal + freezing normal attack which is absolutely insane). To keep the discussion between your pre-selected heroes I'd advise Pixie, Helena, an additional ranged (I hope you have enough Intel to choose between Cyclops Merlin and Pei), Centaur and Dracula. That's pretty much my main team (except I use Zorak instead of additional ranged, cause I never succeeded to choose lol) and it does the job Wow this is useful info. Thanks man. Another question.What are your thoughts about drakon on a new server. Is he a good replacement for centaur?
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Post by naholyr on Jul 8, 2016 6:02:36 GMT 1
Absolutely no idea, never used Drakon so I can't say, maybe more experienced people could tell
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Post by wesar on Jul 9, 2016 14:07:32 GMT 1
Absolutely no idea, never used Drakon so I can't say, maybe more experienced people could tell My current Drakon 58lvl, purple, 3stars Pros: - high hp, base dmg(magic), mobility(4) and initial energy~350 - his dmg growth as battel continue, but only if he can give enemy more poisoin counters - cool dragon design Cons: - low physical def - he is better vs one enemy then a group - ult is useless vs opponent without poision counters So if you have Pixie upgrade her, Drakon disappointed me :/
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Post by roman on Jul 10, 2016 1:09:36 GMT 1
Thanks a lot, very thorough answer. Unfortunately, I was fooled by Zorak soulstone's tooltip at sky arena: "Collect 80 to summon Zorak", when it's only 30 needed to unlock him. I only started looking for his soulstones two days ago, and today I bought the first set of Zorak's soulstones. I'm also buying Aqua's stones, but I'm worried about the fact that she is elemental and so she can't be healed - how often does it become a problem? As for ranged heroes dilemma, I won't have enough Fallen Wings to make any ranged purple for a few days at least (already spent one for Helena; Drac and Cent also need them), so I'll have time to decide Zorak is an all-rounder, similarly to Pixie: he is useful almost everywhere (arena off, arena def, story mode, even sky arena). What exactly do you collect Aqua for? Yes she is an elemental and can't be healed. In sky arena, you will manage to avoid getting her hit; for arena, she seems pretty weak to me. I think she is great for sky arena, I do my sky battles with Helena, Aqua, Pixie, Centaurus, and Trinity - always clean all 10 castles with this one team, lots and lots of control, three healers. However, if you ONLY plan to use her on sky arena, maybe it's wiser to just borrow her from guild hero exchange every day? That's what I do. Ranged: you need Helena for story mode, arena, and sky arena, and Pei and Cyclops for the guild boss - these three are must-have.
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Post by mogrim on Jul 10, 2016 12:17:02 GMT 1
Thanks for advice. Could you, guys, help with another another urgent question: Should I go for something like Pyre or Raina? I want my team to become strong ASAP, and I can farm Raina soulstones at a rate of 5 per day, so it looks like I can get her to 5 star faster, than any other hero (Dracula 3/day, Cyclops 3/day, rest 2/day or less). I heard Raina is okay, and I guess at 5-star she might be better than some heroes at 3-4 stars? For now I'm sticking with Helena, Merlin, Pixie, Centaur and Dracula, but I can start buying Raina's stones as soon as I hear some pros and cons from experienced players. Everything is 2 star and Dracula is 3 star. Dracula deals 40-50% of team's damage and is super tanky, that's why I started thinking about getting some easy-to-farm heroes from sky arena - the amount of stars looks to be very important. And they never sell me Zorak
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Post by roman on Jul 10, 2016 12:58:56 GMT 1
Thanks for advice. Could you, guys, help with another another urgent question: Should I go for something like Pyre or Raina? I want my team to become strong ASAP, and I can farm Raina soulstones at a rate of 5 per day, so it looks like I can get her to 5 star faster, than any other hero (Dracula 3/day, Cyclops 3/day, rest 2/day or less). I heard Raina is okay, and I guess at 5-star she might be better than some heroes at 3-4 stars? For now I'm sticking with Helena, Merlin, Pixie, Centaur and Dracula, but I can start buying Raina's stones as soon as I hear some pros and cons from experienced players. Everything is 2 star and Dracula is 3 star. Dracula deals 40-50% of team's damage and is super tanky, that's why I started thinking about getting some easy-to-farm heroes from sky arena - the amount of stars looks to be very important. And they never sell me Zorak 1. Do not farm/buy neither Pyre nor Raina. 2. Where do you "farm" Raina at 5 cards per day? You mean you can always buy her in the arena? You can buy most of the heroes there anyways. 3. The difference between 5 stars and 4 stars is't that big. 4. What do you mean by "they never sell"? do you use the two almost free (10 coins) shop refresh possibilities on every shop, daily? It's worth it when you are collecting cards of specific heroes. 5. for the record: dracula is like the opposite of "tanky", he is a damage dealer with little HP, like Pixie. Centaur is your tank, after you get him to violet.
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Post by mogrim on Jul 10, 2016 13:12:56 GMT 1
Thanks for advice. Could you, guys, help with another another urgent question: Should I go for something like Pyre or Raina? I want my team to become strong ASAP, and I can farm Raina soulstones at a rate of 5 per day, so it looks like I can get her to 5 star faster, than any other hero (Dracula 3/day, Cyclops 3/day, rest 2/day or less). I heard Raina is okay, and I guess at 5-star she might be better than some heroes at 3-4 stars? For now I'm sticking with Helena, Merlin, Pixie, Centaur and Dracula, but I can start buying Raina's stones as soon as I hear some pros and cons from experienced players. Everything is 2 star and Dracula is 3 star. Dracula deals 40-50% of team's damage and is super tanky, that's why I started thinking about getting some easy-to-farm heroes from sky arena - the amount of stars looks to be very important. And they never sell me Zorak 1. Do not farm/buy neither Pyre nor Raina. 2. Where do you "farm" Raina at 5 cards per day? You mean you can always buy her in the arena? You can buy most of the heroes there anyways. 3. The difference between 5 stars and 4 stars is't that big. 4. What do you mean by "they never sell"? do you use the two almost free (10 coins) shop refresh possibilities on every shop, daily? It's worth it when you are collecting cards of specific heroes. 5. for the record: dracula is like the opposite of "tanky", he is a damage dealer with little HP, like Pixie. Centaur is your tank, after you get him to violet. 4. I didn't know that, thank you! 5. At the current stage (lvl 48), my Dracula has more HP/resistances than anything except Centaur (I guess because he is 3-star and others are 2-star), plus he heals himself for a nice amount 1-2 times per turn, plus females often miss when attacking him. But that's not really important. By the way, if I will get Zorak soon, what should I switch out for him? I really like all 5 of the heroes (Helena, Merlin, Pixie, Centaur and Dracula), sometimes it even feels like Helena is underperforming compared to other 4.
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Post by roman on Jul 10, 2016 13:30:51 GMT 1
5. At the current stage (lvl 48), my Dracula has more HP/resistances than anything except Centaur (I guess because he is 3-star and others are 2-star), plus he heals himself for a nice amount 1-2 times per turn, plus females often miss when attacking him. But that's not really important. By the way, if I will get Zorak soon, what should I switch out for him? I really like all 5 of the heroes (Helena, Merlin, Pixie, Centaur and Dracula), sometimes it even feels like Helena is underperforming compared to other 4. 5. Well, as I said, Centaur is your only tank (out of the heores you mentioned). Yes, when Dracula can heal himself, he survives for quite a while, that's what makes him a must-have. You can make it dependent on the situation. For example, I would use Zorak in sky arena when the opponent is at most my level and also has a Zorak - I would jump to his Zorak and remove his skills, making his a slow perfect target. In arena, use Zorak when he can reach Helena or Pixie or Merlin of the opponent in the first turn; he is less effective if he's hitting tanks. Also, keep in mind that Grump is the perfect anti-Zorak weapon, so maybe think twice before using Zorak against a team with Grump. Anyways, the super-offensive team would be Merlin, Zorak, Pixie, Dracula, and Centaur. In the first round, you don't get that much damage because of Merlin (so Helena's first heal won't be that effective), and at your level, the fight might already end by round 4. Helena is a defensive hero.
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Post by gecimen on Jul 10, 2016 20:01:21 GMT 1
alexander + grump is awesome in sky arena. both tanky, both good dmg thanks to coop attacks, and alex's frequent grouo heals guarantee you'll never lose a hero. (my SA team is Alex, Grump, Centaur, Helena and Medusa for additional CC)
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Post by roman on Jul 10, 2016 20:42:45 GMT 1
alexander + grump is awesome in sky arena. both tanky, both good dmg thanks to coop attacks, and alex's frequent grouo heals guarantee you'll never lose a hero. (my SA team is Alex, Grump, Centaur, Helena and Medusa for additional CC) Wow, that's SUCH a bold statement I've completed all 10 sky arena castles every day since I got to lvl 30 (which was 52 days ago), and this team is far from optimal for sky arena: - Grump and Alex together deal less damage than Pixie alone (with her frequent ult hits), and their only control ability is Grump directing the attack towards him. No stuns, no turning into stone/to sleep. - Medusa is only useful for her ult, otherwise very weak. - Alex only heals units close to him - meaning that you have to regroup before turns 3, 6, and 9 - which can be done, but makes it more complicated.
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