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Post by snjits on Jan 14, 2016 10:17:19 GMT 1
more of a general inquiry
what are opinions regarding the healers do you prefer aoe healing or single target regarding Helena - aqua; Helena seems to heal a lot more than aqua, while aqua's heal seems more in line with trinity's aoe heal regarding amount healed
opinions on the undead heroes? if I'm not mistaken, undead (and demons when we get more of them)are the only hero type which takes extra damage from some hero traits but don't always have an ability to counterbalance this (Dracula and hyperia have self sustain but aries doesn't) and they don't benefitfrom conventional healing
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Post by lennard169041 on Jan 14, 2016 10:32:23 GMT 1
You're right on spot, snjits. I found that I need to be extra careful with using my Dracula in Sky Arena, as AI loves to target it und "healing" by hitting just isn't enough to keep health up. Would love to see an "undead healer" of some kind.
Mostly I go with Helena for "normal" fights and use Helena and Trinity in combination with weak enemies in Sky Arena to heal up for tougher fights. Takes a while, though.
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Post by snjits on Jan 14, 2016 10:35:42 GMT 1
I find Dracula in praticlular very usefull in sky arena actually (don't have him myself so often hire him) but I always wait in the first round and only act after the enemies Helena unless dealing dmg to undeads (works great with merlin)
also kinda sux trinity cant cleanse poison/burn on undead because they cant be healed
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Post by mortivore on Jan 14, 2016 10:51:47 GMT 1
Using undeads for sky arena (not self sustained ones) is not very good for the long run. I tried using makhai, but after one fight he is normally on 50% hp. The same issues goes for other undeads.
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Post by calypte on Jan 14, 2016 14:12:59 GMT 1
Just stun lock all the enemies most of the time and Drac will stay alive for pretty much always.
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Post by karoo on Jan 15, 2016 0:19:29 GMT 1
Just stun lock all the enemies most of the time and Drac will stay alive for pretty much always. Yeah, sky arena is all about abusing round 1 active skills. I recommend pixie for 4 turns of stun, with helena who can then heal an extra time. Undead are plenty viable too. Dracula self healing is not enough on normal attacks, but vampiric strike will definitely do enough to keep him full. Hyperia self healing is good, you need to stunlock 1 enemy at the end to make use of it though. Again, pixie to the rescue. Makhai depends. If the battle is fought on the other side of the field, his skeleton can help tank 2 hits, and it does not matter in the next round. Not terribly useful though, maybe appropriate to have the enemy waste a skill on it though.
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Jan 15, 2016 5:46:45 GMT 1
Trinity's stats suck so she it tough to justify using but her heal is amazing. One of the best moves in HT... same with her blind spell.
Helena and aqua are probably better overall just because they're ranged and aren't going to take as much damage.
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Post by Belphegor on Jan 15, 2016 11:38:44 GMT 1
Xega you are missing the point of trinity just looking at the stats. For clarification - Trinity is not meant to be a melee fighter or a healer unit. He is in between. You dont use him as main attacking force. You use him as support unit. As such stats as they are are sufficient enough most notably on 4 star quality. Then you mention two skills which are good - but in turn forget on the best skill in the game. Inhibition. Which other hero in the game can disable enemy's skills? At a higher lvl game that is crucial most of the time. Inhibition works all the time (on attack or counter attack) + all his 4 skills are working all the time (they are not situational), requiring certain actions to happen. Once you will be attacked from a player who knows how to use and support trinity you will change your opinion drastically
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Jan 15, 2016 19:00:54 GMT 1
Xega you are missing the point of trinity just looking at the stats. For clarification - Trinity is not meant to be a melee fighter or a healer unit. He is in between. You dont use him as main attacking force. You use him as support unit. As such stats as they are are sufficient enough most notably on 4 star quality. Then you mention two skills which are good - but in turn forget on the best skill in the game. Inhibition. Which other hero in the game can disable enemy's skills? At a higher lvl game that is crucial most of the time. Inhibition works all the time (on attack or counter attack) + all his 4 skills are working all the time (they are not situational), requiring certain actions to happen. Once you will be attacked from a player who knows how to use and support trinity you will change your opinion drastically The problem is when she dies in 1 or 2 hits at purple level it's pretty tough to use her.
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Post by snjits on Jan 16, 2016 0:23:44 GMT 1
what star rating against what star rating are u using her?
her defensive statgrowths are above average from what I've seen on the wiki
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Post by mortivore on Jan 16, 2016 8:52:34 GMT 1
I find trinity to be about as tanky as Alex(tho i find him a little squishy). Do a medium+ tank. Medium+ damage and best skills in Game
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Post by xistid on Jan 20, 2016 2:54:20 GMT 1
In my opinion the Inhibition skill is the best, it can disable merlin shield too (both Electrocution and Electrical Armor) the only drawback is it's physical defense is quite low.
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Post by snjits on Jan 20, 2016 7:43:16 GMT 1
not that low really, it's average but it's not a vanguard unit, use it as second line
@morti great skills yes but best skills not sure Pegasus could be better just way harder to get relevant (or demon/angel when they are available could be better too)
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Post by xistid on Jan 20, 2016 14:52:08 GMT 1
demon and angel are OP unit I'm sure we will never get them.
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Post by valkyrieofthemagi on Jan 20, 2016 15:47:12 GMT 1
If this thread is still active, Frosty heals Demons, Undead and Elementals with Wish although really random. Trinity heals Elementals but not Demons nor Undead. Aqua only heals Humans.
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Post by karoo on Jan 24, 2016 2:39:11 GMT 1
If this thread is still active, Frosty heals Demons, Undead and Elementals with Wish although really random. Trinity heals Elementals but not Demons nor Undead. Aqua only heals Humans. thanks, I tried to reflect that in the wiki. aqua's is so dumb because she cant even heal herself.
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Post by bloodsinc on Feb 6, 2016 21:15:02 GMT 1
So, what do you guys think about Aqua's Utility vs Helena late game ? Is she worth a spot ? Or even better, can she outplay Helena in terms of providing utility to the team ? Also agree with some of you about Trinity, I've been always using her, and she sttrugled a hell lot at purple with only 2 stars, but once she got 3, and with some extra support + 2 front liners backing her up, she's a hell of a pain !
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Post by Humbe08 on May 8, 2016 5:46:20 GMT 1
does Trinity still heals elementals?, as of today, i have infernio on my team, but Trinity's heal wont work on him, it will just show the sword animation buff, but i guess thats bcuz of the removing debuffs part, but wont show the heal on him, only on the rest of my team. Also, if i were to run in the long term a team with 4 elementals, with the exception of the VIP 11 one , what would be the best 5th member aside of the other 4 elementals?
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Post by RyanT on May 16, 2016 6:16:36 GMT 1
does Trinity still heals elementals?, as of today, i have infernio on my team, but Trinity's heal wont work on him, it will just show the sword animation buff, but i guess thats bcuz of the removing debuffs part, but wont show the heal on him, only on the rest of my team. Also, if i were to run in the long term a team with 4 elementals, with the exception of the VIP 11 one , what would be the best 5th member aside of the other 4 elementals? Elementals cannot be healed by anything except the random wish of Frosty which is too unreliable to use anyway. They are already so strong, it will break the balance if elementals can be healed. Sadly though, you cannot use elementals team without the Vip 11 Elemix, as he provides the much needed delay for the team to survive. Also, sending enemies back prevents enemies from getting in Aqua and Airy's faces early in the match. Aqua can be occasionally used in an attack team to disable enemies powerful 1st turn skill such as Centaur or Zorak, but greatly depends on the enemies position cause Aqua favourite targets are not those. If you don't have Elemix, then Aqua is the only useful elemental you need.
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